New 2017 FIAT 124

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'85 and '83
Not sure if anyone cares (not sure I do) but I received this from the FIAT club today:

Ciao Edward,
It's coming: the all-new 2017 FIAT® 124 Spider is ready to make its debut. And we're counting down the minutes the only way we know how…fabulously. This classic, stylish roadster will be unveiled at the Los Angeles Auto Show, so don't miss out.
Catch the live reveal of impressive performance and sexy Italian style at 10:00 a.m. PST on 11.18.15. Add the reveal to your Outlook calendar now to make sure you don't miss a second of the action.
If you haven't already, sign up for updates to get more of the all-new FIAT 124 Spider.

Ed
 
Very cool that they are bringing back the Spider but seems like they could have customized the Miata bodywork and grill to give it a more unique look.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/2017-fiat-124-spider-caught-undisguised-it-looks-very-miata-like/

It's a "Fiata" :)


Not sure if anyone cares (not sure I do) but I received this from the FIAT club today:

Ciao Edward,
It's coming: the all-new 2017 FIAT® 124 Spider is ready to make its debut. And we're counting down the minutes the only way we know how…fabulously. This classic, stylish roadster will be unveiled at the Los Angeles Auto Show, so don't miss out.
Catch the live reveal of impressive performance and sexy Italian style at 10:00 a.m. PST on 11.18.15. Add the reveal to your Outlook calendar now to make sure you don't miss a second of the action.
If you haven't already, sign up for updates to get more of the all-new FIAT 124 Spider.

Ed
 
Can't wait

Two and a half days and counting. Interesting to see if the Alfa 4C lends its engine to the Abarth version. I'll likely wait until the second week to attend the show, the vendors on the lower level are open to bargaining on the last day or two.
 
Its live!

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All-new 2017 Fiat 124 Spider Revives Legendary Nameplate with Iconic Italian Styling and Dynamic Driving Experience

- 2017 Fiat 124 Spider returns nearly 50 years after original introduction
Revival of roadster continues expansion of FIAT brand in North America

- Delivers iconic Italian style with modern adaptation of original Spider legend

- Powered by turbocharged MultiAir 1.4-liter engine for 160 horsepower and 184 lb.-ft. of torque, available with manual or automatic transmission
Available with an array of safety and security features, plus technologies for added comfort and convenience

- First 124 units will be available as limited-production Prima Edizione Lusso

Auburn Hills, Mich., Nov 18, 2015 - The all-new 2017 Fiat 124 Spider revives the storied nameplate, bringing its classic Italian styling and performance to a new generation. Paying homage to the original 124 Spider nearly 50 years after its introduction, the 2017 Fiat 124 Spider delivers the ultimate Italian roadster experience with driving excitement, technology and safety combined with iconic Italian design.

"There's no better way to celebrate 50 years of the Fiat 124 Spider than to bring back this iconic roadster, pairing its Italian styling of the past with all of the modern performance and technology of today," said Olivier François, Head of FIAT Brand, FCA – Global. "The 124 Spider expands the FIAT family, bringing to market yet another head-turning, fun-to-drive vehicle for our customers."

Engaging driving dynamics through thoughtful engineering

In North America, the Fiat 124 Spider is available with the proven 1.4-liter MultiAir Turbo four-cylinder engine, the engine's first application in a rear-wheel-drive vehicle. The engine delivers 160 horsepower and 184 lb.-ft. of torque, and is available with a six-speed manual transmission or a six-speed automatic transmission.

The 124 Spider's suspension uses a double-wishbone layout in front and a multi-link in the rear, specifically tuned for greater stability while braking and turning. Steering is light and responsive with the use of an electric power assist (dual pinion) system.

The steering and suspension setup, lightweight frame, balanced weight distribution and turbocharged engine combine for a dynamic driving experience. Noise vibration and harshness (NVH) enhancements, including an acoustic front windshield and insulation treatments, also help to deliver a refined, quiet ride.

For an open-air driving experience, the Fiat 124 Spider's soft convertible top is easy to operate and requires minimal force, much like the original Spider's top.

Loaded with safety, security and technology features

The all-new roadster is available with an array of safety and security features, including adaptive front headlamps, Blind-spot Monitoring, Rear Cross Path detection and ParkView rear backup camera. A high-strength body helps to dissipate energy while optimizing occupant protection.

The Fiat 124 Spider is also available with technology features for added comfort and convenience, including the FIAT Connect 7.0 system with 7-inch touchscreen display, multimedia control, Bluetooth connectivity, heated seats and Keyless Enter 'n Go.

A Bose premium sound system with nine speakers, including dual headrest speakers, is also available for superior sound quality even with the top down.

Design pays homage to past with modern interpretation of styling cues

The all-new Fiat 124 Spider, designed at Centro Stile in Turin, Italy, borrows cues from the original Spider – widely considered one of Fiat's most beautiful cars of all time – and reinterprets them for today. The 2017 124 Spider has a timeless low-slung presence, with a classically beautiful bodyside, well-balanced proportions and a sporty cabin-to-hood ratio. Features like the hexagonal upper grille and grille pattern, "power domes" on the front hood and sharp horizontal rear lamps call to mind details of the historic Spider.

The interior is crafted and designed to focus on the occupants, with premium soft-touch materials throughout. Ergonomics were applied to emphasize the driving experience and ensure easy operation of the steering wheel, pedals and shifter while driving.

The 2017 Fiat 124 Spider is available in two trim levels: Classica and Lusso. Each model is available in six exterior paint colors, including Rosso Passione (Red Clear Coat), Bianco Gelato (White Clear Coat), Nero Cinema (Jet Black Metallic), Grigio Argento (Gray Metallic), Grigio Moda (Dark Gray Metallic) and Bronzo Magnetico (Bronze Metallic). The Lusso ("Luxury") model is also available in tri-coat Bianco Perla (Crystal White Pearl).

Special edition gives enthusiasts the chance to own one of the first 2017 Fiat 124 Spiders

To celebrate the return of the classic nameplate, the first 124 vehicles will be offered as a limited-edition Prima Edizione Lusso, as shown at the 2015 Los Angeles Auto Show. Each will be individually numbered with a commemorative badge and available in exclusive Azzurro Italia (Blue) exterior paint with premium leather seats in Saddle. Owners who purchase a Prima Edizione will also receive limited-edition items, including wearables and a poster. For more information about ordering a Fiat 124 Spider Prima Edizione, interested customers can sign up for updates at http://www.fiatusa.com.

The all-new Fiat 124 Spider will arrive in FIAT studios in North America in summer 2016.​

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I think they've done a passable job of the front

Here's the Miata (MX5) front and bonnet...



And the new 124...



And the classic 124...



They've at least incorporated the bonnet bulges and the shape of the grill from the classic design. The rest...??? I want to see it in the flesh.

Cheers,

Rob
 
I like it!

I like it a lot! The 124 styling cues seem just enough to make it different without being overly done. I also like that it has its own engine that is more powerful than that of the Miata. If the weight didn't balloon up or something awful like that then I would strongly consider it.
 
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It is heavier by 200 over the Miata, I've read, about the same HP but more torque.
It's okay to me. I having trouble getting past it's 90% MX-5 roots though. maybe that's a personal problem I'll have to work on.
 
side by side.

Power domes for the win..:D




Length
◦Fiat: 159.6 inches
◦Mazda: 154.1 inches

•Width
◦Fiat: 68.5 inches
◦Mazda: 68.3 inches

•Height
◦​Fiat: 48.5 inches
◦Mazda: 48.6 inches

•Weight
◦Fiat: 2,436 pounds (manual) / 2,476 pounds (automatic)
◦Mazda: 2,332 pounds (manual) / 2,381 pounds (automatic)


•Power
◦Fiat: 160 horsepower * 5,500 rpm
◦Mazda: 155 horsepower * 6,000 rpm

•Torque​
◦Fiat: 184 pound-feet * 2,500 rpm
◦Mazda: 148 pound-feet * 4,600 rpm

•Power to Weight
◦Fiat: 15.2:1
◦Mazda: 15.0:1










 
Two Things That Will Make A Difference

One: With the exception of the badge on the steering wheel, you can't tell if you are sitting in a Mazda or a Fiat (in the driveway...).

Two: (The biggie) Price. A nicely optioned Miata goes out the door for about 32K sticker. I can't see Fiat doing well above that price.

As a previous 124 owner, I will take one out for a ride (and bring the X to the dealership...) :devil:
 
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My dad and I

haven't missed an LA auto show in years. Considering the fact I live about five minutes from the convention center.

So, who wants pictures?
 
Irony....

Hmmm. A Japanese sports car with an Italian engine. I guess it is ok if Fiat does it, but put a Japanese engine in an Italian sports car........:devil:
 
haven't missed an LA auto show in years. Considering the fact I live about five minutes from the convention center.

So, who wants pictures?

go check on that Elio thing, I've been watching that for years, I even put myself on the reservation list but it looks very doubtful they will ever make it to production
 
Its only 100 lbs heavier and has a better power to weight ratio then the Miata. I kind of like it. Its easy to mod that engine up to the 200 hp mark. keep that in mind. Its already been done.
 
Ah, now I see...

...that virtually every panel is different.

I think the Fiat version looks much more purposeful and I also now see there are many more design cues from the original.

Looking forward to seeing one. A test drive might be in my future.
 
Abarth version

Chances are a higher performing Abarth 124 Spider should debut at some point. More power, stiff suspension. But wait, how about an new 124 Coupe to take on the Toyota scion Subaru FRS/86?
 
I was disappointed when I saw those spy photos in Malibu, but the more I see of the official car, the more I'm impressed. The car looks great, and I've heard it is stunning in person. This car deserves to sell well. Just wait until they come out with a 200hp 124 Abarth.

Who the heck ten years ago would have imagined Fiat back, and with a car like this?

:pigsfly:
 
Power

A guy in our Fiat club says he is getting 240 out of his Abarth with just bolt-ons.

carl
 
A guy in our Fiat club says he is getting 240 out of his Abarth with just bolt-ons.

carl


That is impressive but I did see a video on Jay Leno's Garage where a tuner told him the same thing so it is possible. I never dyno'd mine, but I am pretty dang sure I added at least 20 with my mild ECU piggy-back upgrade. 200+ can't be hard at all.
 
Many LA show unveilings up on YT.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2wTjrlzVJo"]2016 Fiat 124 Spider Reveal Highlights from the Los Angeles Auto Show - YouTube[/ame]
 
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